N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC

USDOT 3935916 Active AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE Company officer: NATHAN SIMONAIRE General Freight Based in PORT SAINT LUCIE, FL Insurance watch: HIGH Grade C · 63
Brokers & shippers · booking check

Book with caution — review signals below

No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking.

Caution
Policy effective · Feb 20, 2026
Review these
  • Insurance-lapse watch: HIGH Recent BMC-91 cancellation or instability without a clear replacement. Details →
  • OOS rate worse than size peers Driver and/or vehicle out-of-service rate is above the peer median.
On file
  • 1 active operating authority
  • Insurance on file · $300,000 TRISURA SPECIALTY INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X Details →
  • BOC-3 process agent on file DOTPROCESSAGENTS.COM LLC Details →
Company officer: NATHAN SIMONAIRE
Cargo: General Freight
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Plain-text risk summary (print / paste)
TruckCodex risk summary — N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC (USDOT 3935916)
Verdict: CAUTION
Book with caution — review signals below
No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking.

Authority / census status: Active
Active BIPD limit: $300,000
Officer(s): NATHAN SIMONAIRE (Company officer)

Blockers:
  (none)

Cautions:
  • Insurance-lapse watch: HIGH — Recent BMC-91 cancellation or instability without a clear replacement.
  • OOS rate worse than size peers — Driver and/or vehicle out-of-service rate is above the peer median.

On file:
  • 1 active operating authority
  • Insurance on file · $300,000 — TRISURA SPECIALTY INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X
  • BOC-3 process agent on file — DOTPROCESSAGENTS.COM LLC

Source: https://truckcodex.com/usdot/3935916/
As of: Jul 18, 2026
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TruckCodex · compliance grade

Compliance grade C

Composite of 4/5 scored components (mean 63/100). Expand for per-signal evidence. Heuristic — not an FMCSA rating or legal advice.

C confidence 80% · 4/5 signals
Authority / census
Active · 100/100

Active census status with no OOS order or revoked authority on file.

Insurance / BIPD
BIPD active · 100/100

Active BIPD/Primary-like policy on file in our insurance history.

OOS vs peers
Riskier than peers · 15/100

Driver OOS 13.8% vs peer median 0% (worse). Vehicle OOS 25% vs peer median 12.5% (worse). n=67547 same-size ACTIVE peers.

FMCSA safety rating
Unrated

FMCSA has not assigned this carrier a formal safety rating. We do not invent one.

NR reason: No published FMCSA safety_rating.

Insurance-watch tier
HIGH · 35/100

Insurance-lapse watch: HIGH.

TruckCodex compliance grade from authority, BIPD, peer OOS, FMCSA safety rating, and insurance-watch signals. Not legal advice. See methodology. Booking triage on this page: Caution.

Fleet size changes

  • Power Units +5 (10 → 15) · May 25, 2026 · FMCSA Company Census
  • Drivers +7 (8 → 15) · May 25, 2026 · FMCSA Company Census
Operating authority
Insurance

TRISURA SPECIALTY INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X · $300,000

1 active policy

Company profile

Company details
USDOT 3935916
In FMCSA records since Aug 16, 2022 (~3y)
MC / docket MC1460223
Company officer NATHAN SIMONAIRE
Operation AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE
Cargo carried
General Freight
Fleet size 15 units
Drivers 15
Annual mileage 1,205,477 mi
Contact & address
Physical
2010 SW BRISBANE STREET
PORT SAINT LUCIE, FL 34984
Mailing
760 MALIBU BAY DR APT 107
WEST PALM BCH, FL 33401-8413
Registration & safety rating
USDOT 3935916
In FMCSA records since Aug 16, 2022 (~3y)
Operation AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE
Annual mileage (MCS-150) 1,205,477 mi
vs. National Average
Vehicle OOS Rate 25.0% vs 23.4% +1.6 pts
Driver OOS Rate 13.8% vs 6.7% +7.1 pts
Violations per Inspection 2.54 vs 1.80 +0.74
Peer tier (mid-sized fleets (11-100 power units)) median OOS rate: 27.3%
Active insurance
Related filings

Fleet details (MCS-150)

Vehicle type Owned Term leased Trip leased
Truck tractors 4 9 0
Trailers 1 13 0
Trucks 0 2 0

Self-reported on the carrier’s Form MCS-150 (FMCSA Company Census).

Accident reports (24 months)

All 1 crashes →
Last 6 months 6–12 months 12–24 months Total
Fatalities 0 0 0 0
Injuries 0 0 0 0
Tow-away 0 1 0 1
Crash reports 0 1 0 1

Reportable crashes from FMCSA MCMIS for the trailing 24 months. Counts may differ slightly from SAFER due to reporting lag.

Inspections (24 months)

All 30 inspections →
Driver Vehicle Hazmat
Inspections 28 28 0
OOS inspections 2 1 0
OOS percentage 7.14% 3.57%
National average 6.67% 22.26% 4.44%

Roadside inspections in the last 24 months. National averages are FMCSA MCSAP reference rates (driver ~6.7%, vehicle ~23.4%, hazmat ~4.4%).

Power Units
15
Drivers
15
Inspections
30
FMCSA roadside history
OOS Rate (peak)
25.0%
driver or vehicle, whichever higher
Crashes (24m)
1
Authorities
1
1 active
Carrier analysis & narrative context SEO summary, status notes, AI overview, and safety profiles

N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC is a motor carrier based in PORT SAINT LUCIE, FL, registered with the FMCSA under USDOT 3935916. The carrier is currently active in FMCSA's records, and has not yet received a formal FMCSA safety rating. MCS-150 self-reporting puts the fleet at 15 power units and 15 drivers, with 30 roadside inspections on file and a peak out-of-service rate of 25.0%. Use this page to verify the carrier's authority and insurance, review its inspection and crash history, and cross-reference live data on FMCSA SAFER before booking a load or onboarding a partner.

Carrier is unrated

FMCSA has not assigned this carrier a formal safety rating. Use the inspection history and BASIC scores below to assess on-road performance.

Carrier overview

N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC is a small fleet, operating 10 power units and 8 drivers, based in Port Saint Lucie, FL. Across 28 roadside inspections in the last 24 months, the fleet recorded a 14.3% out-of-service rate, with 1 reportable crash. Operating authority is active for common.

Inspection profile

28 roadside inspections over the last 24 months, up 2,700% versus the prior 24 months, concentrated in SC (5) and TN (3), with Level 3 inspections the most common.

Violation profile

14.3% out-of-service rate; led by Vehicle Maintenance (40.8% of violations); top code 396.17C-PI (No proof of periodic inspection) cited 6 times.

Fleet profile

The fleet comprises 10 power units (small fleet) and 8 drivers; Freightliner, Hyundai Translead, and International are the most-inspected makes.

Risk Signals

High OOS rate
Peak OOS rate of 25.0% is well above FMCSA MCSAP national averages (driver ~6.7%, vehicle ~23.4%).

Out-of-Service rate vs same-size peers FMCSA roadside inspections, % placed out-of-service

Compared against 67,547 ACTIVE carriers operating 7–23 power units (±50% of this carrier's 15 unit fleet).

This carrier — Driver OOS
13.8%
Drivers placed out-of-service at roadside inspections
Peer median
0%
Median across 67,547 same-size peers
Verdict
Riskier than peers
Delta +13.8 pts vs peer median (lower is safer)
This carrier — Vehicle OOS
25%
Vehicles placed out-of-service at roadside inspections
Peer median
12.5%
Median across 67,547 same-size peers
Verdict
Riskier than peers
Delta +12.5 pts vs peer median (lower is safer)

Fleet History

Sourced from FMCSA daily imports; field-level change log. 2 tracked changes on record. · 1 driver-count change

Record Changes

    • Drivers 8 15
      Seen 2 times · first May 25, 2026 · last May 25, 2026 FMCSA Company Census
    • Power Units 10 15
      Seen 2 times · first May 25, 2026 · last May 25, 2026 FMCSA Company Census

Power Units Over Time

May 25, 2026 May 25, 2026

Bar height reflects reported power-unit count after each FMCSA filing update.

Inspection Analytics Monthly activity · BASIC mix · state map

Monthly Inspection Activity (24 months)

2025-02 2026-06

Violations by BASIC Category

Federal BASIC buckets for every citation issued against this carrier over the past 24 months.

Activity by State

States this carrier has been inspected in over the past 24 months.
State Inspections OOS OOS % Last Inspection
South Carolina (SC) 5 0 0.0% Dec 9, 2025
Tennessee (TN) 3 0 0.0% Jan 29, 2026
Illinois (IL) 2 0 0.0% Dec 18, 2025
Georgia (GA) 2 0 0.0% Oct 1, 2025
Arizona (AZ) 2 0 0.0% Oct 1, 2025
Texas (TX) 2 0 0.0% Jan 12, 2026
Washington (WA) 2 2 100.0% Oct 28, 2025
Montana (MT) 1 1 100.0% Aug 8, 2025
North Carolina (NC) 1 0 0.0% Feb 22, 2025
Ohio (OH) 1 0 0.0% May 16, 2025
Louisiana (LA) 1 0 0.0% Aug 22, 2025
Delaware (DE) 1 0 0.0% Oct 8, 2025
Iowa (IA) 1 0 0.0% Mar 16, 2025
Indiana (IN) 1 0 0.0% Sep 9, 2025
Kentucky (KY) 1 0 0.0% Oct 2, 2025
Arkansas (AR) 1 0 0.0% Apr 25, 2025
Massachusetts (MA) 1 0 0.0% Jun 25, 2026
Vehicle Fleet Top makes and models observed in roadside inspections
Make Model Inspections
Freightliner 23
Hyundai Translead 12
International 3
Great Dane 2
Stoughton 2
Vanguard 2
Wabash National 2
Hyster Cor 1
SMS BASIC Scores FMCSA Safety Measurement System per-BASIC scores
BASIC Inspections Serious Measure Percentile Alert As Of
Driver Fitness 2 0.42 0 Jul 13, 2026
Controlled Substances / Alcohol 0 0.00 0 Jul 13, 2026
Hours of Service 10 1.52 2 Jul 13, 2026
Unsafe Driving 11 8.61 9 ALERT Jul 13, 2026
Vehicle Maintenance 6 11.52 12 Jul 13, 2026

Higher percentiles indicate worse performance relative to peer carriers. Carriers at or above the FMCSA intervention threshold are marked ALERT.

Recent Inspections (30 rows) View all 30 →
Inspection # Date ▼ State Level Station Vehicle Violations Top Codes OOS
88241395 Jun 25, 2026 MA 2
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
7 390.21TE2IV-D, 393.78A-WS, 393.100C-C No
86928095 Jan 29, 2026 TN 3 SMYRNA TN
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLLR No
86841926 Jan 12, 2026 TX 2 IH30 WB MT PLEASANT SCALE
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
86615082 Dec 18, 2025 IL 3
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLS1 No
86523597 Dec 9, 2025 SC 3 ANDERSON SC
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
2 396.17C-PI, 395.22G-ELDMFV No
86213748 Oct 28, 2025 WA 3 DU PONT WA
KENWORTH TRUCK TRACTOR
4 395.3A2-HOSPRNC, 395.8E-HOSPCDOOS, 392.2-SLLTCD Yes
86066334 Oct 15, 2025 WA 1 GRANDVIEW WA
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
7 396.5B-HWSL, 393.47E, 393.53B-B Yes
86028566 Oct 12, 2025 TN 3 KNOXVILLE TN
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
86001623 Oct 8, 2025 DE 3 NEWARK DE
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLTR No
85937245 Oct 2, 2025 KY 3 LONDON
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
2 392.2-SLL No
85985640 Oct 1, 2025 GA 1 MOULTRIE GA
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
7 393.48A-BIBD, 395.8E-HOSPD, 393.205C-WRAWFLMIB No
85947480 Oct 1, 2025 AZ 2 KINGMAN AZ
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
10 393.11A1-CSLRR, 393.95A4-EEUS, 392.2-SLLSR No
85759602 Sep 9, 2025 IN 3 TERRE HAUTE IN
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
4 395.22H1-ELDNUM, 395.22H4-ELDBRODS, 395.22G-ELDMFV No
85700698 Aug 30, 2025 GA 3 SPARKS GA
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
3 395.24, 392.16-D No
85630102 Aug 22, 2025 LA 3 BOSSIER CITY LA
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
3 392.2-SLLTCD, 395.8E-HOSPD, 396.17C-PI No
85456607 Aug 8, 2025 MT 3 WIBAUX MT
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
1 383.95A-LCDL Yes
85415632 Aug 5, 2025 SC 3 LYNCHBURG SC
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLED No
85407914 Aug 4, 2025 SC 2 LYNCHBURG SC
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
4 393.9A-LHLI, 396.9D2-FTF, 395.22H4-ELDBRODS No
85290132 Jul 21, 2025 AZ 2 WINSLOW AZ
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
9 392.2-SLLSR, 393.11A1-CSLRR, 395.22G-ELDMFV No
85035983 Jun 24, 2025 SC 3 PIEDMONT SC
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
2 383.71H, 392.2-SLLS2 No
84925939 Jun 9, 2025 TX 2 IH30 WB MT PLEASANT SCALE
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
84773071 May 22, 2025 TN 3 MANCHESTER TN
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
84708127 May 16, 2025 OH 3 DEFIANCE OH
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLTL No
84668720 May 12, 2025 IL 3 I-94
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
84535734 Apr 25, 2025 AR 3 LITTLE ROCK AR
FREIGHTLINER TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLLR No
Recent Crashes (1 row)
Report # Date ▼ State Fatalities Injuries Tow Hazmat Severity
PA509349900X Oct 17, 2025 PA 0 0 Yes No Tow
Authority Records (1 docket)
MC Certificate Documents (1 PDF)

Authority Records (above) are FMCSA docket status and lifecycle events. MC Certificate Documents here are the archived PDF letters for each action — grants, reinstatements, revocations, name changes, and transfers. They are related but not the same dataset: one row per PDF letter, not one file per docket.

Click a row to open that specific letter. Multiple letters per docket are listed separately by action type and date.

Date Docket Action Authority PDF
Sep 7, 2022 MC1460223-C CPL REVOCATION CPL →
Insurance Coverage Timeline (4 rows)

Every insurance policy on file, newest effective date first. Amber rows mark BIPD/Primary coverage gaps.

Insurer Policy # Type Limit Effective Cancel Status
TRISURA SPECIALTY INSURANCE COMPANY MIT-UKNAP2300164-2106 91X $300,000 Feb 20, 2026 On file ACTIVE
SOUTHWIND RISK RETENTION GROUP INC SWR-FL-0005312-25 BIPD/Primary Oct 14, 2025 Mar 7, 2026 CANCELLED
SOUTHWIND RISK RETENTION GROUP INC SWR-FL-0005312-25 BIPD/Primary Oct 14, 2025 Feb 20, 2026 REPLACED
PROGRESSIVE EXPRESS INSURANCE COMPANY CA02782384 BIPD/Primary Aug 31, 2022 Oct 14, 2025 REPLACED
Compliance Timeline Merged authority / insurance / enforcement events
  1. Mar 7, 2026
    insurance
    TERM/CANCL — SOUTHWIND RISK RETENTION GROUP INC
  2. Feb 23, 2026
    authority
    DISCONTINUED REVOCATION — COMMON
    Details →
  3. Feb 20, 2026
    insurance
    TERM/REPL — SOUTHWIND RISK RETENTION GROUP INC
  4. Oct 14, 2025
    insurance
    TERM/REPL — PROGRESSIVE EXPRESS INSURANCE COMPANY
  5. Sep 7, 2022
    authority
    GRANTED — MOTOR PROPERTY COMMON CARRIER
    Details →
Top Stations & Violation Codes Where this carrier gets inspected and what they get cited for

Most-Inspected Stations

Station State Inspections OOS
LYNCHBURG SC SC 2 0
IH30 WB MT PLEASANT SCALE TX 2 0
LITTLE ROCK AR AR 1 0
KINGMAN AZ AZ 1 0
WINSLOW AZ AZ 1 0
NEWARK DE DE 1 0
MOULTRIE GA GA 1 0
SPARKS GA GA 1 0
I-35 SB IA 1 0
I-94 IL 1 0

Top Violation Codes Cited

Code Description Category Cited OOS
395.24 HOS (ELD) - ELD form and manner Hours of Service 4 0
392.2 Violation of Local Laws - Explain: Unsafe Driving 2 0
383.51(a) Driving a CMV while disqualified from holding a CDL Driver Fitness 1 1
393.75(a) Flat tire or fabric exposed Vehicle Maintenance 1 1
393.9(a) Inoperable required lamps Vehicle Maintenance 1 0
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How to verify N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC

  1. Verify USDOT and MC numbers match the carrier's documents. Compare the USDOT number and MC docket on this page to the numbers on the carrier's invoice, rate confirmation, or load-board listing. A mismatch between the carrier's claimed numbers and the registered legal name is the single most common red flag.
  2. Check active operating authority and insurance status. Confirm the Authority Records show at least one ACTIVE docket for the type of operation you're booking, and that the Active Insurance card lists a current BIPD/Primary policy. A revoked authority or uninsured carrier cannot legally operate.
  3. Review safety rating and SMS BASIC scores. Check the carrier's FMCSA safety rating (if any) and the SMS BASIC table. A high percentile in any BASIC category — especially Unsafe Driving, HOS, or Vehicle Maintenance — is worth investigating before tendering a load.
  4. Examine inspection and crash history. Open the Inspection History and Crash History subpages for the full record. Look for patterns: repeat OOS findings on the same unit, multiple crashes in a short window, or violations clustered in one BASIC category.
  5. Cross-reference real-time data with FMCSA SAFER. For the most current snapshot — within 24 hours of any insurer filing or authority change — click through to the FMCSA SAFER lookup. TruckCodex mirrors SAFER and L&I daily; SAFER itself reflects filings within 24 hours.

Frequently asked questions about N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC

Is N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC an active motor carrier?
Yes. N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC is registered with the FMCSA under USDOT 3935916 and is currently shown as Active in the agency's Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS). Active status means the carrier may legally operate, contingent on continuous insurance and authority filings.
What is N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC's safety rating?
N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC is unrated. FMCSA assigns formal safety ratings only after a compliance review, and the agency has not yet completed one for this carrier. Being unrated is not by itself a red flag — most active carriers in the database are unrated. Review the inspection and BASIC data below to assess on-road performance.
How many inspections has N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC had?
30 roadside inspections are on file for N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC in FMCSA's MCMIS database. Each inspection is summarized in the Inspection History section below — sortable by date, state, level, and out-of-service result. Newer inspections are pulled from the FMCSA SMS data feed daily.
What is N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC's out-of-service rate?
N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC's peak out-of-service rate is 25.0% (whichever is higher of driver-OOS or vehicle-OOS, computed from FMCSA roadside inspection data). The national averages are roughly 6.7% for drivers and 23.4% for vehicles — see the peer-context card on this page for a side-by-side comparison.
Where is N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC based?
N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC reports its physical address to the FMCSA as 2010 SW BRISBANE STREET, PORT SAINT LUCIE, Florida 34984. Carriers must file a Form MCS-150 every two years to keep their address current; an outdated address is a common compliance flag.
Does N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC have valid operating authority?
Yes. N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC holds 1 active FMCSA operating authority (MC1460223). Each docket appears in the Authority Records section below with its full event history. Active authority means the carrier may legally operate as a for-hire carrier, contingent on current insurance and BOC-3 process-agent filings.
How many trucks and drivers does N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC operate?
N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC self-reports 15 power units and 15 drivers on its most recent FMCSA Form MCS-150 filing. Power-unit and driver counts come from the carrier directly and are required to be updated every two years; very large fluctuations between filings can indicate fleet changes worth investigating.
Has N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC had any crashes?
1 FMCSA-reportable crash is on file for N&J BROS BREAD DISTRIBUTIONS INC in MCMIS. A reportable crash is one resulting in a fatality, an injury requiring transport for medical attention, or a vehicle disabled and towed from the scene. The full crash log is on the Crashes subpage with date, state, and outcome details.

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Carrier safety data lives in FMCSA's Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS): roadside inspections, crashes, out-of-service findings, and the seven Behavior Analysis and Safety Improvement Categories (BASICs) that make up the SMS scoring methodology. For-hire carriers must also hold operating authority — an MC, FF, or MX docket number — which is separate from the USDOT number and requires continuous insurance and BOC-3 process-agent filings to remain active.

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