CHARLES M SHIRK TRUCKING INC
TERRE HILL, PA
CHARLES M SHIRK TRUCKING INC is a mid-sized fleet, operating 17 power units and 17 drivers, organized as an individual, based in Terre Hill, PA. Across 20 roadside inspections in the last 24 months, the fleet's 15.0% out-of-service rate sits below the 19.4% national average, with 2 reportable crashes. BMC-91 liability filing is on file with ACUITY, A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY, and operating authority is active for common.
Book with caution — review signals below
No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking.
- OOS rate worse than size peers Vehicle 36.4% vs peer 13.3% Details →
Plain-text risk summary (print / paste)
TruckCodex risk summary — CHARLES M SHIRK TRUCKING INC (USDOT 10695) Verdict: CAUTION Book with caution — review signals below No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking. Authority / census status: Active Active BIPD limit: $750,000 Blockers: (none) Cautions: • OOS rate worse than size peers — Vehicle 36.4% vs peer 13.3% On file: • 1 active operating authority • Insurance on file · $750,000 — ACUITY, A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X • BOC-3 process agent on file — AMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS Source: https://truckcodex.com/usdot/10695/ As of: Sep 22, 2026 Always confirm on FMCSA SAFER and L&I before tendering — TruckCodex mirrors public filings and can lag by up to a day.
TruckCodex · filing & peer scorecard
TruckCodex filing & peer scorecard · A
Composite of 4/5 scored components (mean 85/100). Separate from booking triage on this page. Expand for per-signal evidence. Heuristic — not an FMCSA rating or legal advice.
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confidence 80% · 4/5 signals · expand
TruckCodex filing & peer scorecard · A
Composite of 4/5 scored components (mean 85/100). Separate from booking triage on this page. Expand for per-signal evidence. Heuristic — not an FMCSA rating or legal advice.
Active census status with no OOS order or revoked authority on file.
Active BIPD/Primary-like policy on file in our insurance history.
Driver OOS 0% vs peer median 0% (neutral). Vehicle OOS 36.4% vs peer median 13.3% (worse). n=60706 same-size ACTIVE peers.
FMCSA has not assigned this carrier a formal safety rating. We do not invent one.
NR reason: No published FMCSA safety_rating.
No BMC-91 insurance-lapse watch classification on file for this USDOT.
TruckCodex filing & peer scorecard from authority, BIPD, peer OOS, FMCSA safety rating, and insurance-watch signals. Not a booking verdict and not legal advice. See methodology. Booking triage on this page: Caution.
1 active liability filing
Company profile
No active FMCSA cargo filing on file.
FMCSA L&I filing evidence — not a shipper certificate of insurance (COI). Cargo (BMC-34) is primarily an HHG / household-goods requirement; general freight carriers often have none.
No active broker surety bond or trust fund on file.
BMC-84 is a surety bond; BMC-85 is a trust-fund agreement. Required for property brokers / freight forwarders — not motor-carrier BIPD liability insurance.
Based on FMCSA authority grant of 2008-06-04 (2,000+ days). Published gates only — not a guarantee they will accept. Confirm with the broker.
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InsuranceACUITY, A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANYPolicy effective May 1, 2013
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Process AgentAMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONSBOC-3 on file
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Operating AuthorityMC138858ACTIVE
Fleet details (MCS-150)
| Vehicle type | Owned | Term leased | Trip leased |
|---|---|---|---|
| Truck tractors | 15 | 1 | 1 |
| Trailers | 40 | 0 | 0 |
Self-reported on the carrier’s Form MCS-150 (FMCSA Company Census).
Accident reports (24 months)
All 43 crashes →| Last 6 months | 6–12 months | 12–24 months | Total | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fatalities | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Injuries | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Tow-away | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 |
| Crash reports | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 |
Reportable crashes from FMCSA MCMIS for the trailing 24 months. Counts may differ slightly from SAFER due to reporting lag.
Inspections (24 months)
All 34 inspections →| Driver | Vehicle | Hazmat | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Inspections | 20 | 20 | 0 |
| OOS inspections | 0 | 3 | 0 |
| OOS percentage | 0% | 15% | — |
| National average | 6.7% | 23.4% | 4.4% |
Roadside inspections in the last 24 months. National averages are FMCSA MCSAP reference rates (driver ~6.7%, vehicle ~23.4%, hazmat ~4.4%).
Carrier analysis & narrative context Status notes, risk intelligence, and safety profiles
Carrier is unrated
FMCSA has not assigned this carrier a formal safety rating. Use the inspection history and BASIC scores below to assess on-road performance.
CHARLES M SHIRK TRUCKING INC had 20 roadside inspections over the past 24 months with an out-of-service rate of 15.0%, which is below the national average of 19.4%. Their highest FMCSA BASIC percentile is vehicle_maint at 7.0. 2 reportable crashes occurred in the same 24-month window.
20 roadside inspections over the last 24 months, concentrated in PA (12) and NJ (5).
15.0% out-of-service rate, below the 19.4% national average; led by Vehicle Maintenance (42.9% of violations); top code 392.2 (Violation of Local Laws) cited 7 times.
The fleet comprises 17 power units (mid-sized fleet) and 17 drivers; Peterbilt, Mack, and Fontaine are the most-inspected makes.
Risk Signals
Out-of-Service rate vs same-size peers FMCSA roadside inspections, % placed out-of-service
Compared against 60,706 ACTIVE carriers operating 8–26 power units (±50% of this carrier's 17 unit fleet).
Inspection Analytics Monthly activity · BASIC mix · state map
Monthly Inspection Activity (19 months)
Violations by BASIC Category
Activity by State
| State | Inspections | OOS | OOS % | Last Inspection |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pennsylvania (PA) | 12 | 1 | 8.3% | May 19, 2026 |
| New Jersey (NJ) | 5 | 1 | 20.0% | Aug 28, 2026 |
| Maryland (MD) | 2 | 0 | 0.0% | Jan 15, 2026 |
| Delaware (DE) | 1 | 1 | 100.0% | Oct 16, 2025 |
Vehicle Fleet Top makes and models observed in roadside inspections
| Make | Model | Inspections |
|---|---|---|
| Peterbilt | 17 | |
| Mack | 7 | |
| Mana | 6 | |
| Fontaine | 6 | |
| Mntr | 2 | |
| Pete | 2 | |
| Utility | 2 | |
| Wilson | 2 |
SMS BASIC Scores FMCSA Safety Measurement System per-BASIC scores
| BASIC | Inspections | Serious | Measure | Percentile | Alert | As Of |
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| Driver Fitness | 0 | — | 0.00 | 0 | — | Sep 21, 2026 |
| Controlled Substances / Alcohol | 0 | — | 0.00 | 0 | — | Sep 21, 2026 |
| Hours of Service | 1 | — | 0.14 | 0 | — | Sep 21, 2026 |
| Unsafe Driving | 3 | — | 1.41 | 1 | — | Sep 21, 2026 |
| Vehicle Maintenance | 7 | — | 7.45 | 7 | — | Sep 21, 2026 |
Higher percentiles indicate worse performance relative to peer carriers. Carriers at or above the FMCSA intervention threshold are marked ALERT.
Recent Inspections (34 rows) View all 34 →
| Inspection # | Date ▼ | State | Level | Station | Vehicle | Violations | Top Codes | OOS |
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| 88834731 | Aug 28, 2026 | NJ | 3 | BEDMINSTER |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 392.2-SLLS4 | No |
| 87899673 | May 19, 2026 | PA | 3 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 86924334 | Jan 30, 2026 | PA | 3 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 392.16-D | No |
| 86924462 | Jan 29, 2026 | PA | 3 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 392.2-SLLTL | No |
| 86824872 | Jan 15, 2026 | MD | 2 | SNOW HILL MD |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 393.55E-B, 393.45D-B | No |
| 86373557 | Nov 19, 2025 | PA | 3 | pa-sr0015-tioga-twp---pa-welcome |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 86281568 | Nov 7, 2025 | NJ | 3 | GREENWICH WEST SCALE |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 86065485 | Oct 16, 2025 | DE | 2 | WILMINGTON DE |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 393.110B1-C | Yes |
| 85869406 | Sep 23, 2025 | PA | 3 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 392.2-SLLEWG2, 392.2-SLLEWA2 | No |
| 85568598 | Aug 21, 2025 | PA | 3 | pa-on-i-81-n-@-exit-44 |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 392.2-SLL | No |
| 85500168 | Aug 13, 2025 | PA | 1 | BERWYN PA |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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12 | 393.48A-BI-TSA, 393.45B2-BHTD, 396.3A1-BOS | Yes |
| 85296826 | Jul 22, 2025 | PA | 3 | pa-on-i-78-w-near-mm-70.5 |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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5 | 392.2-SLLIRP, 392.2-SLLLR, 395.24D-ELDPT | No |
| 85272454 | Jul 18, 2025 | NJ | 1 | CARNEYS POINT |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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3 | 392.2-SLLEWG3, 392.2-SLLEWA3, 393.45B2-B-AIR | No |
| 84756968 | May 21, 2025 | PA | 2 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 392.2-SLLSR, 392.2-SLLED | No |
| 83730724 | Jan 28, 2025 | PA | 3 | — |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 392.8-D, 392.16-D | No |
| 83632754 | Jan 15, 2025 | PA | 3 | ETTERS PA |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 83315178 | Dec 4, 2024 | NJ | 1 | GREENWICH SCALE EB |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 392.2-SLLEWA2 | No |
| 83203724 | Nov 19, 2024 | NJ | 1 | GREENWICH SCALE EB |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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5 | 393.110B2I-C, 393.104B-C, 393.104F3-C | Yes |
| 83028251 | Oct 28, 2024 | PA | 2 | SHOEMAKER AVE MEASURING 1254 F |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 396.17C | No |
| 82976554 | Oct 23, 2024 | MD | 2 | CECILTON SCALE HOUSE |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 396.17C-PI | No |
| 82455603 | Aug 22, 2024 | DE | 3 | MIDDLETOWN DE |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 82120528 | Jul 15, 2024 | OH | 2 | CAMBRIDGE SCALES |
PETERBILT TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 82056875 | Jul 5, 2024 | NJ | 3 | GREENWICH WB SCALE |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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0 | — | No |
| 81494502 | Apr 29, 2024 | NJ | 1 | GREENWICH WB SCALE |
MACK TRUCK TRACTOR
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2 | 393.75(a)(3), 393.11 | Yes |
| 81466441 | Apr 29, 2024 | DE | 3 | MIDDLETOWN DE |
KENWORTH TRUCK TRACTOR
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1 | 392.2 | No |
Recent Crashes (43 rows) View all 43 →
| Report # | Date ▼ | State | Fatalities | Injuries | Tow | Hazmat | Severity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PA511761000X | Dec 15, 2025 | PA | 0 | 1 | Yes | No | Injury |
| PA510514900X | Nov 21, 2025 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| MD20A0725162 | Sep 10, 2020 | MD | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA810695900X | Oct 11, 2018 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA709935700X | Sep 20, 2017 | PA | 0 | 2 | Yes | No | Injury |
| PA509787200X | Sep 14, 2015 | PA | 0 | 2 | Yes | No | Injury |
| MD15A0141480 | Aug 24, 2015 | MD | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA506293700X | May 20, 2015 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| MD14A0046724 | Nov 4, 2014 | MD | 0 | 1 | Yes | No | Injury |
| MD14A0044332 | Oct 27, 2014 | MD | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA309083800X | Sep 9, 2013 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA308482400X | Aug 20, 2013 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA308172000X | Aug 6, 2013 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA301156200X | Jan 29, 2013 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| NJ0012114825 | May 29, 2012 | NJ | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| NJ0011256759 | Nov 22, 2011 | NJ | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA012366600X | Dec 6, 2010 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| NJ0009130813 | Jun 19, 2009 | NJ | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA813478000X | Dec 10, 2008 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA811421100X | Oct 15, 2008 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA608966600X | Jun 27, 2006 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA515291500X | Jun 30, 2005 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA500259000X | Oct 15, 2004 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
| PA407869900X | Jul 2, 2004 | PA | 0 | 1 | No | No | Injury |
| PA0303139700 | Jun 4, 2003 | PA | 0 | 0 | Yes | No | Tow |
Authority Records (1 docket)
MC Certificate Documents (1 letter, 1 PDF)
Authority Records (above) are FMCSA docket status and lifecycle events. MC Certificate Documents here are the archived PDF letters for each action — grants, reinstatements, revocations, name changes, and transfers. They are related but not the same dataset: one row per PDF letter, not one file per docket.
Each row is a distinct FMCSA letter (grant, reinstatement, revocation, name change, transfer, etc.). When a PDF is archived, click the link to open that letter. Rows without a link still show the action type and date from our index. FMCSA stopped publishing new daily certificate PDFs after the May 2026 Motus cutover — rows below are historical archive only.
| Date | Docket | Action | Authority | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jun 4, 2008 | MC138858-C | Reinstatement Letter | Reinstatement | Reinstatement Letter → |
Insurance Coverage Timeline (16 rows)
Every insurance policy on file, newest effective date first. Amber rows mark BIPD/Primary coverage gaps.
| Insurer | Policy # | Type | Limit | Effective | Cancel | Status |
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| ACUITY, A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY | CA-X68695 | 91X | $750,000 | May 1, 2013 | On file | ACTIVE |
| MAXUM CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY | TRK 6009641-1 | BIPD/Primary | — | May 1, 2009 | Jun 6, 2013 | CANCELLED |
| TRAVELERS PROPERTY CASUALTY CO. OF AMERICA | QT-660-1536M357-TIL-09 | CARGO | — | May 1, 2009 | Nov 3, 2018 | CANCELLED |
| MAXUM CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY | TRK 6009641-1 | BIPD/Primary | — | May 1, 2009 | May 1, 2013 | REPLACED |
| NORTHLAND INSURANCE COMPANY | TF607434 | BIPD/Primary | — | May 1, 2008 | May 1, 2009 | CANCELLED |
| GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK | IMP 6817864 | CARGO | — | May 1, 2005 | May 1, 2009 | REPLACED |
| WESTPORT INSURANCE CORPORATION | WCP1030001943 | BIPD/Primary | — | May 1, 2003 | May 1, 2008 | CANCELLED |
| AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS MUTUAL INSURANCE CO. | F3Y 021520-00 | BIPD/Primary | — | May 1, 1997 | May 1, 2003 | REPLACED |
| PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS. | 169700-76-26-38-5 | CARGO | — | Feb 1, 1997 | May 7, 2008 | CANCELLED |
| PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS. | 1696007625668 | BIPD | — | Feb 1, 1996 | May 1, 1997 | REPLACED |
| PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS. | 159600 7626385 | CARGO | — | Feb 1, 1996 | Feb 1, 1997 | REPLACED |
| LINCOLN GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANY | PAP 189643 0295 | BIPD/Primary | — | Feb 1, 1995 | Feb 1, 1996 | CANCELLED |
| LINCOLN GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANY | PAP 189643 0293 | BIPD/Primary | — | Feb 1, 1994 | Feb 1, 1995 | CANCELLED |
| GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK | IMP 716 9971 | CARGO | — | Feb 1, 1993 | Mar 15, 1996 | CANCELLED |
| GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK | IMP 716 9971 | CARGO | — | Feb 1, 1993 | Feb 1, 1996 | REPLACED |
| THE INSURANCE COMPANY OF NORTH AMERICA | LMT 247137 | BIPD/Primary | — | Jul 7, 1992 | Feb 1, 1995 | REPLACED |
Compliance Timeline Merged authority / insurance / enforcement events
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Jun 8, 2021
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Nov 3, 2018insuranceCANCEL — TRAVELERS PROPERTY CASUALTY CO. OF AMERICA
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Jun 6, 2013insuranceTERM/CANCL — MAXUM CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY
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May 1, 2013insuranceTERM/REPL — MAXUM CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY
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May 1, 2009insuranceCANCEL — NORTHLAND INSURANCE COMPANY
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May 1, 2009insuranceTERM/REPL — GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK
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Apr 28, 2009
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Jun 4, 2008
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May 13, 2008
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May 13, 2008authorityAuthority revoked — INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION
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May 7, 2008insuranceCANCEL — PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS.
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May 1, 2008insuranceCANCEL — WESTPORT INSURANCE CORPORATION
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Apr 29, 2008
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Dec 12, 2005
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Dec 12, 2005
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Dec 12, 2005
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Dec 12, 2005authorityAuthority revoked — INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION
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May 1, 2003insuranceTERM/REPL — AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS MUTUAL INSURANCE CO.
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May 1, 1997insuranceTERM/REPL — PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS.
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Feb 1, 1997insuranceTERM/REPL — PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS.
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Apr 22, 1996
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Mar 15, 1996insuranceTERM/CANCL — GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK
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Feb 1, 1996insuranceTERM/REPL — GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK
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Feb 1, 1996insuranceCANCEL — LINCOLN GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANY
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Feb 1, 1995insuranceTERM/REPL — THE INSURANCE COMPANY OF NORTH AMERICA
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Feb 1, 1995insuranceCANCEL — LINCOLN GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANY
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Sep 3, 1992
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Apr 16, 1992
Top Stations & Violation Codes Where this carrier gets inspected and what they get cited for
Most-Inspected Stations
| Station | State | Inspections | OOS |
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| MIDDLETOWN DE | DE | 2 | 0 |
| GREENWICH SCALE EB | NJ | 2 | 1 |
| GREENWICH WB SCALE | NJ | 2 | 1 |
| WILMINGTON DE | DE | 1 | 1 |
| EVANSVILLE IN | IN | 1 | 0 |
| CECILTON SCALE HOUSE | MD | 1 | 0 |
| I-83 | MD | 1 | 0 |
| SNOW HILL MD | MD | 1 | 0 |
| BEDMINSTER | NJ | 1 | 0 |
| CARNEYS POINT | NJ | 1 | 0 |
Top Violation Codes Cited
| Code | Description | Category | Cited | OOS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 392.2 | Violation of Local Laws | Unsafe Driving | 7 | 0 |
| 392.16(a) | Failing to use seat belt (49 CFR) | Unsafe Driving | 2 | 0 |
| 393.11 | No or defective lighting devices or reflective material as required | Vehicle Maintenance | 1 | 0 |
| 393.19 | Inoperative/Defective Hazard Warning Lamp | Vehicle Maintenance | 1 | 0 |
| 393.75(a)(3) | Tire-flat and/or audible air leak | Vehicle Maintenance | 1 | 1 |
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Docket MC138858
common · ACTIVE · MC
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ACUITY, A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY
91X policy on file
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MAXUM CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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TRAVELERS PROPERTY CASUALTY CO. OF AMERICA
CARGO policy on file
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NORTHLAND INSURANCE COMPANY
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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GREAT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW YORK
CARGO policy on file
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WESTPORT INSURANCE CORPORATION
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS MUTUAL INSURANCE CO.
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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PENNSYLVANIA MANUF. ASSOC. INS.
CARGO policy on file
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LINCOLN GENERAL INSURANCE COMPANY
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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THE INSURANCE COMPANY OF NORTH AMERICA
BIPD/Primary policy on file
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AMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS
BOC-3 process agent · 2,406 carriers served
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34 inspections
Full roadside inspection history
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43 reportable crashes
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