TURNER HOLDINGS LLC

USDOT 8025 Active CORPORATION PRIVATE PROPERTY;AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE Satisfactory rated CORPORATION Company officer: DAVID WARMATH Cold Food Based in MEMPHIS, TN Grade B · 83
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Book with caution — review signals below

No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking.

Caution
Policy effective · Apr 1, 2018
Review these
  • OOS rate worse than size peers Driver and/or vehicle out-of-service rate is above the peer median.
On file
  • Insurance on file · $3,000,000 ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X Details →
  • BOC-3 process agent on file MULTI-STATES AGENT FOR PROCESS, INC. Details →
  • Satisfactory FMCSA safety rating
Org: CORPORATION
Company officer: DAVID WARMATH
Cargo: Cold Food
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Plain-text risk summary (print / paste)
TruckCodex risk summary — TURNER HOLDINGS LLC (USDOT 8025)
Verdict: CAUTION
Book with caution — review signals below
No hard OOS / revoked / uninsured blocker, but elevated risk signals need a human look before booking.

Authority / census status: Active
Active BIPD limit: $3,000,000
Officer(s): DAVID WARMATH (Company officer)
Organization: CORPORATION

Blockers:
  (none)

Cautions:
  • OOS rate worse than size peers — Driver and/or vehicle out-of-service rate is above the peer median.

On file:
  • Insurance on file · $3,000,000 — ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY · 91X
  • BOC-3 process agent on file — MULTI-STATES AGENT FOR PROCESS, INC.
  • Satisfactory FMCSA safety rating

Source: https://truckcodex.com/usdot/8025/
As of: Jul 24, 2026
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TruckCodex · compliance grade

Compliance grade B

Composite of 5/5 scored components (mean 83/100). Expand for per-signal evidence. Heuristic — not an FMCSA rating or legal advice.

B confidence 100% · 5/5 signals
Authority / census
Active · 100/100

Active census status with no OOS order or revoked authority on file.

Insurance / BIPD
BIPD active · 100/100

Active BIPD/Primary-like policy on file in our insurance history.

OOS vs peers
Riskier than peers · 15/100

Driver OOS 4.2% vs peer median 0% (worse). Vehicle OOS 63.6% vs peer median 15.8% (worse). n=26459 same-size ACTIVE peers.

FMCSA safety rating
Satisfactory · 100/100

Official FMCSA Satisfactory safety rating.

Insurance-watch tier
Not on watch · 100/100

No BMC-91 insurance-lapse watch classification on file for this USDOT.

TruckCodex compliance grade from authority, BIPD, peer OOS, FMCSA safety rating, and insurance-watch signals. Not legal advice. See methodology. Booking triage on this page: Caution.

Operating authority
Insurance

1 active liability policy

Company profile

Company details
USDOT 8025
In FMCSA records since Jun 1, 1974 (~52y)
Entity CORPORATION
Business org CORPORATION
Company officer DAVID WARMATH
Operation PRIVATE PROPERTY;AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE
Cargo carried
Cold Food
Fleet size 39 units
Drivers 35
Annual mileage 2,457,284 mi
Contact & address
Physical
2040 MADISON
MEMPHIS, TN 38104
Mailing address matches physical.
Registration & safety rating
USDOT 8025
In FMCSA records since Jun 1, 1974 (~52y)
Entity CORPORATION
Operation PRIVATE PROPERTY;AUTHORIZED FOR HIRE
Annual mileage (MCS-150) 2,457,284 mi
Safety Rating Satisfactory
vs. National Average
Vehicle OOS Rate 63.6% vs 23.4% +40.2 pts
Driver OOS Rate 4.2% vs 6.7% -2.5 pts
Violations per Inspection 1.65 vs 1.80 -0.15
Peer tier (mid-sized fleets (11-100 power units)) median OOS rate: 27.3%
Active liability insurance
FMCSA cargo filing (BMC-34/83)

No active FMCSA cargo filing on file.

FMCSA L&I filing evidence — not a shipper certificate of insurance (COI). Cargo (BMC-34) is primarily an HHG / household-goods requirement; general freight carriers often have none.

Related filings

Fleet details (MCS-150)

Vehicle type Owned Term leased Trip leased
Truck tractors 8 0 0
Trailers 187 0 0
Trucks 31 0 0

Self-reported on the carrier’s Form MCS-150 (FMCSA Company Census).

Inspections (24 months)

All 64 inspections →
Driver Vehicle Hazmat
Inspections 20 20 0
OOS inspections 1 5 0
OOS percentage 5% 25%
National average 6.67% 22.26% 4.44%

Roadside inspections in the last 24 months. National averages are FMCSA MCSAP reference rates (driver ~6.7%, vehicle ~23.4%, hazmat ~4.4%).

Power Units
39
Drivers
35
Inspections
64
FMCSA roadside history on file
OOS Rate (peak)
63.6%
driver or vehicle, whichever higher
Crashes
77
None in last 24 months · all-time on file
Authorities
1
0 active
Carrier analysis & narrative context SEO summary, status notes, AI overview, and safety profiles

TURNER HOLDINGS LLC is a corporation based in MEMPHIS, TN, registered with the FMCSA under USDOT 8025. The carrier is currently active in FMCSA's records, with a safety rating of Satisfactory. MCS-150 self-reporting puts the fleet at 39 power units and 35 drivers, with 64 roadside inspections on file and a peak out-of-service rate of 63.6%. Use this page to verify the carrier's authority and insurance, review its inspection and crash history, and cross-reference live data on FMCSA SAFER before booking a load or onboarding a partner.

Carrier overview

TURNER HOLDINGS LLC is a mid-sized fleet, operating 39 power units and 35 drivers, organized as a corporation, with 7 years on FMCSA's records, based in Memphis, TN. Across 25 roadside inspections in the last 24 months, the fleet recorded a 32.0% out-of-service rate, with no reportable crashes on file. BIPD/Primary insurance is on file with ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY, and all filed authority types (contract) are currently revoked.

Inspection profile

25 roadside inspections over the last 24 months, down 36% versus the prior 24 months, concentrated in AR (21) and TN (2), with Level 3 inspections the most common.

Violation profile

32.0% out-of-service rate; led by Vehicle Maintenance (54.8% of violations); top code 392.2 (Operating a CMV while ill or fatigued) cited 4 times.

Fleet profile

The fleet comprises 39 power units (mid-sized fleet) and 35 drivers; Great Dane, Volvo, and International are the most-inspected makes.

Risk Signals

High OOS rate
Peak OOS rate of 63.6% is well above FMCSA MCSAP national averages (driver ~6.7%, vehicle ~23.4%).
Authority revoked
1 revocation on record.

Out-of-Service rate vs same-size peers FMCSA roadside inspections, % placed out-of-service

Compared against 26,459 ACTIVE carriers operating 19–59 power units (±50% of this carrier's 39 unit fleet).

This carrier — Driver OOS
4.2%
Drivers placed out-of-service at roadside inspections
Peer median
0%
Median across 26,459 same-size peers
Verdict
Riskier than peers
Delta +4.2 pts vs peer median (lower is safer)
This carrier — Vehicle OOS
63.6%
Vehicles placed out-of-service at roadside inspections
Peer median
15.8%
Median across 26,459 same-size peers
Verdict
Riskier than peers
Delta +47.8 pts vs peer median (lower is safer)
Inspection Analytics Monthly activity · BASIC mix · state map

Monthly Inspection Activity (24 months)

2024-08 2026-04

Activity by State

States this carrier has been inspected in over the past 24 months.
State Inspections OOS OOS % Last Inspection
Arkansas (AR) 18 6 33.3% Apr 15, 2026
Mississippi (MS) 1 0 0.0% Sep 19, 2025
Tennessee (TN) 1 0 0.0% Dec 9, 2025
Vehicle Fleet Top makes and models observed in roadside inspections
Make Model Inspections
International 30
Great Dane 25
Volvo 20
Utility 6
Freightliner 2
Hyundai Translead 1
SMS BASIC Scores FMCSA Safety Measurement System per-BASIC scores
BASIC Inspections Serious Measure Percentile Alert As Of
Driver Fitness 1 0.11 0 Jul 20, 2026
Controlled Substances / Alcohol 0 0.00 0 Jul 20, 2026
Hours of Service 1 0.08 0 Jul 20, 2026
Unsafe Driving 10 0.70 1 Jul 20, 2026
Vehicle Maintenance 7 10.30 10 Jul 20, 2026

Higher percentiles indicate worse performance relative to peer carriers. Carriers at or above the FMCSA intervention threshold are marked ALERT.

Recent Inspections (64 rows) View all 64 →
Inspection # Date ▼ State Level Station Vehicle Violations Top Codes OOS
87592483 Apr 15, 2026 AR 3 HOPE AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
2 2-SLLSR, 2-SLLEWA1 No
87388713 Mar 24, 2026 AR 3 WALNUT RIDGE AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
3 392.2-SLLS2, 390.201BI-MC, 396.17C-PI No
87177806 Feb 26, 2026 AR 3 HOT SPRINGS NAT PK AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
2 392.2-SLLS2, 396.17C-PI No
86527017 Dec 9, 2025 TN 3 COLLIERVILLE TN
INTERNATIONAL STRAIGHT TRUCK
0 No
85852171 Sep 19, 2025 MS 2 TREMONT
INTERNATIONAL STRAIGHT TRUCK
2 392.2-SLLS3, 393.95A1 No
85203184 Jul 12, 2025 AR 1 FORDYCE AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
2 393.9A-LTSI, 393.9A-LHWS Yes
84710033 May 17, 2025 AR 3 FORDYCE AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
84674394 May 14, 2025 AR 1 WEST MEMPHIS AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
4 393.207A-STBW, 393.75A3-TAOL, 393.9A-LLPL Yes
84674335 May 14, 2025 AR 1 WEST MEMPHIS AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
84704613 May 12, 2025 AR 3 BRYANT AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
2 391.11B4, 392.2-SLLLR Yes
84513219 Apr 23, 2025 AR 3 WEST MEMPHIS AR
KENWORTH TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLEWA1 No
84454415 Apr 17, 2025 AR 2 WEST MEMPHIS AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
2 393.75A3-TAOL, 392.2-SLLEWA1 Yes
84401090 Apr 10, 2025 AR 2 WEST MEMPHIS AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
4 393.75A3-TAOL, 393.9A-LCL, 393.9A-LIL Yes
84212301 Mar 22, 2025 AR 3 BEEBE AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLSR No
84201263 Mar 21, 2025 AR 3 WALDO AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLS2 No
84162431 Mar 18, 2025 AR 3 WEST MEMPHIS AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2-SLLEWA3 No
84115923 Mar 13, 2025 AR 2 HOPE AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
1 393.75A3-TAOL Yes
83013781 Oct 28, 2024 AR 1 HAZEN AR
FREIGHTLINER STRAIGHT TRUCK
2 393.9A-LHLI, 393.9A-LHWS No
82380162 Aug 13, 2024 AR 3
INTERNATIONAL STRAIGHT TRUCK
1 392.2 No
82355095 Aug 8, 2024 AR 3 MARION AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
4 395.22(h)(4), 392.2, 395.24 No
82147882 Jul 16, 2024 AR 3 CABOT AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2 No
82049546 Jul 2, 2024 AR 3 MONTICELLO AR
INTERNATIONAL TRUCK TRACTOR
1 392.2 No
81897141 Jun 17, 2024 MO 2 RIVES MO
INTERNATIONAL STRAIGHT TRUCK
4 393.75(b), 393.9(a), 392.16(a) Yes
81623851 May 10, 2024 TN 3 JACKSON TN
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
0 No
81527353 May 6, 2024 AR 2 HOPE AR
VOLVO TRUCK TRUCK TRACTOR
3 393.47(a), 393.45(b)(2), 393.75(a)(3) Yes
Recent Crashes (77 rows) View all 77 →
Report # Date ▼ State Fatalities Injuries Tow Hazmat Severity
TX6GMFHQE1U0 Nov 28, 2022 TX 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2022551597 Aug 31, 2022 AR 0 1 Yes No Injury
MS1703220123 Aug 29, 2022 MS 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2022545595 Aug 2, 2022 AR 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0300813863 Jul 4, 2022 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2021582027 Dec 20, 2021 AR 0 1 Yes No Injury
TN0300607215 Feb 10, 2020 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2019506566 Feb 9, 2019 AR 0 1 Yes No Injury
TN0102116832 Aug 14, 2018 TN 0 3 Yes No Injury
AR2018547763 Jul 21, 2018 AR 0 0 Yes No Tow
MS7303180766 May 16, 2018 MS 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0101987709 Apr 23, 2018 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0300433736 Apr 2, 2018 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2018519335 Feb 28, 2018 AR 0 0 Yes No Tow
MS9054170001 Jun 12, 2017 MS 0 1 Yes No Injury
MO0000067449 Apr 24, 2017 MO 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR2016505763 Mar 30, 2016 AR 0 1 Yes No Injury
KY0071713194 Dec 28, 2015 KY 0 1 Yes No Injury
TN0300253396 Nov 30, 2015 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
KY0071683663 Sep 8, 2015 KY 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0300229206 Jun 29, 2015 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0300213101 Mar 10, 2015 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
TN0300202029 Dec 22, 2014 TN 0 1 No No Injury
TN0100486189 Apr 8, 2014 TN 0 0 Yes No Tow
AR0013074137 Dec 6, 2013 AR 0 0 Yes No Tow
Authority Records (1 docket)

Revocations & Inactive Status

Authority actions other than active status — revocations, voluntary surrenders, and dormant dockets.

Date Docket Authority Status Applied
Unknown MC256895 common N
MC Certificate Documents (1 PDF)

Authority Records (above) are FMCSA docket status and lifecycle events. MC Certificate Documents here are the archived PDF letters for each action — grants, reinstatements, revocations, name changes, and transfers. They are related but not the same dataset: one row per PDF letter, not one file per docket.

Click a row to open that specific letter. Multiple letters per docket are listed separately by action type and date.

Date Docket Action Authority PDF
Aug 23, 2018 MC256895-P REI REINSTATEMENT REI →
Insurance Coverage Timeline (3 rows)

Every insurance policy on file, newest effective date first. Amber rows mark BIPD/Primary coverage gaps.

Insurer Policy # Type Limit Effective Cancel Status
ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY ISA H25156596 BIPD/Primary Apr 1, 2018 Apr 1, 2018 REPLACED
ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY ISA H25156596 91X $3,000,000 Apr 1, 2018 On file ACTIVE
HARTFORD FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY 20UEN MD4417E BIPD Jul 1, 1992 Jul 30, 2018 CANCELLED
Compliance Timeline Merged authority / insurance / enforcement events
  1. Aug 23, 2018
    authority
    REINSTATED — MOTOR PROPERTY CONTRACT CARRIER
    Details →
  2. Aug 6, 2018
    authority
    REVOKED — MOTOR PROPERTY CONTRACT CARRIER
    Details →
  3. Aug 6, 2018
    authority
    Authority revoked — INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION
  4. Jul 30, 2018
    insurance
    CANCEL — HARTFORD FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY
  5. Apr 1, 2018
    insurance
    TERM/REPL — ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY
  6. Nov 30, 2005
    authority
    DISCONTINUED REVOCATION — CONTRACT
    Details →
  7. Oct 14, 1996
    authority
    DISMISSED — MOTOR PROPERTY COMMON CARRIER
    Details →
Top Stations & Violation Codes Where this carrier gets inspected and what they get cited for

Most-Inspected Stations

Station State Inspections OOS
WEST MEMPHIS AR AR 6 3
ROADSIDE TN 4 0
HOPE AR AR 3 2
FORDYCE AR AR 2 1
107 MS 2 0
NESBIT SCALE I-55 NORTH MS 2 0
BEEBE AR AR 1 0
BRYANT AR AR 1 1
CABOT AR AR 1 0
HAZEN AR AR 1 0

Top Violation Codes Cited

Code Description Category Cited OOS
392.2 Violation of Local Laws - Explain: Unsafe Driving 23 0
393.9(a) Inoperable required lamps Vehicle Maintenance 7 1
392.16(a) Failing to use seat belt (49 CFR) Unsafe Driving 2 0
383.23(a)(2) Operating a CMV without a CDL Driver Fitness 1 1
393.45(b)(2) Brake hose or tubing chafing and/or kinking Vehicle Maintenance 1 1
393.45(d) Brake connections with leaks or constrictions Vehicle Maintenance 1 1
393.47(a) Inadequate brakes for safe stopping - Brake Lining condition Vehicle Maintenance 1 1
393.47(e) Brake Out of Adjustment - Roto, Clamp (Short & Long), DD-3, or Bolt Vehicle Maintenance 1 0
393.53(b) CMV manufactured after 10/19/94 has an automatic airbrake adjustment system that fails to compensate for wear Vehicle Maintenance 1 0
393.60(c) Windshield - Damaged or Discolored Vehicle Maintenance 1 0
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How to verify TURNER HOLDINGS LLC

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  3. Review safety rating and SMS BASIC scores. Check the carrier's FMCSA safety rating (if any) and the SMS BASIC table. A high percentile in any BASIC category — especially Unsafe Driving, HOS, or Vehicle Maintenance — is worth investigating before tendering a load.
  4. Examine inspection and crash history. Open the Inspection History and Crash History subpages for the full record. Look for patterns: repeat OOS findings on the same unit, multiple crashes in a short window, or violations clustered in one BASIC category.
  5. Cross-reference real-time data with FMCSA SAFER. For the most current snapshot — within 24 hours of any insurer filing or authority change — click through to the FMCSA SAFER lookup. TruckCodex mirrors SAFER and L&I daily; SAFER itself reflects filings within 24 hours.

Frequently asked questions about TURNER HOLDINGS LLC

Is TURNER HOLDINGS LLC an active motor carrier?
Yes. TURNER HOLDINGS LLC is registered with the FMCSA under USDOT 8025 and is currently shown as Active in the agency's Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS). Active status means the carrier may legally operate, contingent on continuous insurance and authority filings.
What is TURNER HOLDINGS LLC's safety rating?
TURNER HOLDINGS LLC's FMCSA safety rating is Satisfactory. A Satisfactory rating means FMCSA evaluators determined the carrier had an adequate safety management program at the time of the most recent compliance review. Safety ratings are assigned only after a formal compliance review; most carriers in the FMCSA database are unrated.
How many inspections has TURNER HOLDINGS LLC had?
64 roadside inspections are on file for TURNER HOLDINGS LLC in FMCSA's MCMIS database. Each inspection is summarized in the Inspection History section below — sortable by date, state, level, and out-of-service result. Newer inspections are pulled from the FMCSA SMS data feed daily.
What is TURNER HOLDINGS LLC's out-of-service rate?
TURNER HOLDINGS LLC's peak out-of-service rate is 63.6% (whichever is higher of driver-OOS or vehicle-OOS, computed from FMCSA roadside inspection data). The national averages are roughly 6.7% for drivers and 23.4% for vehicles — see the peer-context card on this page for a side-by-side comparison.
Where is TURNER HOLDINGS LLC based?
TURNER HOLDINGS LLC reports its physical address to the FMCSA as 2040 MADISON, MEMPHIS, Tennessee 38104. Carriers must file a Form MCS-150 every two years to keep their address current; an outdated address is a common compliance flag.
Does TURNER HOLDINGS LLC have valid operating authority?
TURNER HOLDINGS LLC has 1 authority record on file, but none are currently active. See the Authority Records section below for the status of each docket — common reasons for inactive authority include lapsed insurance, cancelled BOC-3 filings, or revocation following safety-related actions.
How many trucks and drivers does TURNER HOLDINGS LLC operate?
TURNER HOLDINGS LLC self-reports 39 power units and 35 drivers on its most recent FMCSA Form MCS-150 filing. Power-unit and driver counts come from the carrier directly and are required to be updated every two years; very large fluctuations between filings can indicate fleet changes worth investigating.
Has TURNER HOLDINGS LLC had any crashes?
77 FMCSA-reportable crashes are on file for TURNER HOLDINGS LLC in MCMIS. A reportable crash is one resulting in a fatality, an injury requiring transport for medical attention, or a vehicle disabled and towed from the scene. The full crash log is on the Crashes subpage with date, state, and outcome details.

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Carrier safety data lives in FMCSA's Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS): roadside inspections, crashes, out-of-service findings, and the seven Behavior Analysis and Safety Improvement Categories (BASICs) that make up the SMS scoring methodology. For-hire carriers must also hold operating authority — an MC, FF, or MX docket number — which is separate from the USDOT number and requires continuous insurance and BOC-3 process-agent filings to remain active.

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